Fees may be payable depending on your final choice of financial product. They will not deal with you either by email or phone snail mail is the only communication In this day & age I despair!!!! This will result in many tourists being hit by charges through no fault of their own. Yes and please be aware that the phone lines will be open for shorter hours over the Christmas period, so you could ring up to find them closed and get a fine. Its a bit sneaky, but last time I had a PCN, I paid 5 for a trial of an online Solicitor called JustAnswer. BTW as for cutting crossing times, why did it take me 25 minutes on a Sunday afternoon? Its never fun when you get any penalty charge, but knowing what to do could save you a ton of money. It seems, that I will soon receive notification of a large penalty for crossing and not paying on time. :(, Tommy, We are still being pursued by dart Charge for ever increasing amounts. If so, you should be fine for both trips. You'll also have to pay the original fee. If this is not done, the firm will send another email with a 5.00 admin charge attached still much lower than the 70 fine the Government would levy after just one day even if you dont get the email until you get back from your holiday. Should I be able to pay and avoid a fine. This eBook is for the use of anyone anywhere in the United States and most other parts of the world at no cost and with almost no restrictions whatsoever. This whole online paying system just feels so criminal and just aimed at catching people out. Its a lease car, so Ive never heard a thing since from either them, or the lease company Completely unaware, Call 0300 123 1059, and explain your situation to them and theyll send you some appeal forms, I just hope theyre successful, How this can be a fair, or cost-effective process is beyond me having never had som much as a parking ticket in my life, taking me to court for paying a 2.50 a day late is ludicrous. I have to pay the further 70 or 114.28 Swiss Francs by the 3rd of October, so I have a little time. That said, you can use the tunnel for free at night if you cross between 10pm and 6am every day of the week. Good luck. On Dart tag website it will tell you to prepay at 100s stores often the open all hours type. BY CHEQUE OR POSTAL ORDER: write the PCN number on the back of a cheque or postal order payable to 'Dart Charge' and send to Dart Charge, PO Box 842, Leeds, LS1 9QF. Help - ** RESOLVED ** . The signs really need improving. Would be possible pay it now, or I have to pay the penalty? Very confused only just received letter nearly 8 weeks after so how can the pcn cancellation work now or will it still apply. I called customer service and they have no record of my crossing on Monday!! We crossed on 28 August. The UK is a lovely place but the governments are supporting the extortionists every which way you look. I telephoned the Dartford Tunnel to be told I had not paid enough for a return journey and that I still had to pay for the return trip. Thanks. However, dont leave this until the last moment, because we phoned the number only to be informed it was too busy to take our payment.Pay by phone (if its not too busy): 0300 300 0120, Payzone retail outlet:This is where you can pop into a local store and pay for the charge by cash or other means. The whole world out scam each other and the UK Government back it. I could put in any number plate and pay, even if the vehicle has not crossed. This option lets you pay for pay for individual crossings up to 12 months in advance. Yet another part of UK democracy where they will take your money as quickly as they can and with penalty clauses but, give it back? So the money has been taken. I passed over, thinking of that. these people are thieves..basically charged for forgetting to pay a couple of pounds,do they really think people are trying to get away with paying a couple of pounds so they instead be hit with a crazy expensive fineas I said thieves. What is being done by the highways agency to address this scam mark, Hi Mark, We are just giving information about the new charging system and are not part of the crossing itself.Please call the crossing info line 0300 300 0120. Since it was in a hire car, I have no idea if anyone using this car has missed previous payments and thus whether any 14-day extension will be granted. Since I was calling from SPAIN, yes SPAIN, at whatever extortionate amount my provider was charging, the call was probably more than the crossing. Apart from that, I believe from these notes that there should be 14 day grace period to pay the original fee but therte is no mention of this option on either demand. Your email address will not be published. I have received a Penalty Notice from Dart Charge after using the crossing not knowing I had to pay for it on my holidays this summer. just to make it fair i think best thing to do is send the people letter to pay 2.50 and then if they dont pay within 14days they can be charge 35 . Do you think I would win an appeal? (1). I am French. Details A copy of the Penalty. That being said, my brother just recieved 2 PCN's for a crossing in August. This allows them to pay the original charge rather than the full fine. Copyright © 2023 Airport Parking & Hotels. So many people like you just didnt know about the new system and why should you. If you fail to pay them, they add a little on but nowhere near as much as the Crossing. Please, I need your help. Hi, I crossed the bridge at around 5pm on Monday 5th Oct. This is just extortion. I had my money ready to pay as Ive done before but no barriers. Just googled to find this and the new pay system. 3. This is the first time I forgot to pay. the mail services goes slowly, and they were in late with the deliveries. now i received the penalty Charges notice of 35. It might be worth the 2.50 gamble on paying or phone them and explain the situation. I didn't ignore the fine. It seems the recognition SW cannot easily distinguish 1 and I on some number plates. The charge can be paid online, by phone, or at a retail location. But called to ask asI found out going through the tunnel means I have to pay too (thought you only paid while going through the bridge) but the man I spoke to said I now have to wait to receive a pcn as he cant take the payment. If I am on holidays in the UK I have no tablet, notebook or computer with me only an old mobile. they hadnt sent the penalty letter for the return journey or the other journey i made in July. Is it possible that someone else has used the car at the crossing? So, I assume, I/you would only be liable for the lower penalty charge of 35. We don't as a general policy investigate the solvency of companies mentioned (how likely they are to go bust), but there is a risk any company can struggle and it's rarely made public until it's too late (see the. There are no contact details on the charge certificate. This will depend on your circumstances and will be discussed at the earliest opportunity by the financial product provider. The power to issue a penalty charge notice is a discretionary one the regulations state that the authority may issue a penalty charge notice (my emphasis). Three points: While his Dartfordcrossingtoll site is not asking for money, its likely that some wont be for built with such innocent intentions. If they reject your protest then you can use the adjudicator, but not before going through this antiquated process. If you are unable to pay the PCN, you can contact the Dart Charge customer service team to discuss payment options. I was extremely shocked about this, is there anything I can do to avoid paying or being charged as I did not want to use the bridge or tunnel and the time on the cameras can prove I went straight over and back without stopping? Must be easier and more cost efficient to erect some clear signs than send out payment demands! Job done Have you forgotten something? Relieved to read your message! I entered all my details including credit card details and eventually a server error notice appeared on my screen, which I have saved into a word document. Read on to find out what you need to know about a Dart penalty charge notice and whether you could get out of paying it. I doubt there is much you can do legally, but maybe a letter explaining the situation and pointing out the lack of customer service from the employee might help. why cant they give us information when required. I shrugged it off and assumed there must be some mistake because I KNOW I had the toll covered. I have no issue in paying the normal crossing fee. Hi Pete, In order to appeal to the independent adjudicator, firstly you have to write a letter to Dart Charge in Leeds, using the postal system (in this day and age!) Just been made aware that you have to pay to cross, sadly, the website doesnt prove you have crossed and owe a fee. Under my ownership, the . though they asked for this payment within 7th January (14 days from the notice), so I was only 2 days in late, Else good bye 1050. Are you deliberately trying to deter motorists from using this crossing? The arbitrary 35 fine is proof of that. I have cross the bridge couple of times before but paid them in time so this is my first time that I forgot to pay. This is then used to pay for crossings, but occasional users will have dead money left in the account. Has anyone actually gone to court with this? Had exactly the same problem phoned and was told it was not possible to pay after midnight on the day after the crossing. Also people should be able to pay by post after the crossing made. So the cycle begins again. I am very interested and heartened by the outcome of your independent tribunal. She paid the 5 charge today but hopes we dont get a penalty charge as she never intended to do anything other than pay, however, as she said, its something that goes out of your mind hours after you have used the tunnel. I got pipped by cars behind me who obviously werent paying either so I carried on. I now had to wait 56 days to receive their response. I had been charge as a commercial vehicle, the cameras not detecting that my van has a side window which changes the charging rate. I have just received a fine notice almost three months since using the crossing. How do I submit a Dart Charge appeal? You sign up and it automatically pays the toll then sends you an invoice. On the crossing there is nothing! This morning I received a fine and Im devastated. Thank you! Im getting very annoyed as it is proving impossible to prepay for a crossing..Terry. I do not have a smart phone and internet access at my destination was difficult. Hi Follow this link for information and a direct link to an official page where you can start the appeal process. Alternatively, you could A4V the PCN, meaning, that you could get them to accept for value, the fine. I dont hate much in life, but the Dartford toll system is something I really hate. Where someone has paid a day or two late, and before Dart Charge have even begun to take action on the unpaid crossing by issuing a penalty charge notice, they can be few, if any, reasonable grounds for issuing a PCN, given that the purpose of the penalty system is to encourage compliance with the payment system. Have France removed their toll booths. My Online payment was charged twice. I have used the dart pay system many times before, and paid successfully. www.paydartcharge.co.uk appears at the top of the Google search Appearing at the top of Google's search ranking means less online savvy Dartford Crossing users could be paying too much. My advice? Please can you help? Here is the number for the dartford crossing in case you need it. Hi You will need to give them a call. Please send it straight away. Choose Pay or challenge a PCN (Penalty Charge Notice) then click Next button This system stinks of corruption and tricks to get your money. I agree with Alan its nothing but a big brother government scam. I did not cross bridge since last 4 years but I received fine for crossing in Jan 2015 that day I have part exchanged my car for the fined one so Im owner since 16:00 and crossing was recorded at 13:20. They advised me on how to appeal and gave me everything I needed to make an airtight defence. The whole system has been designed and set up to catch out motorists. Reasons for appeal to the independent adjudicator must fall into the following: You were not the registered keeper of the vehicle when the alleged contravention occurredThe vehicle was taken without the owners consentThe owner is a vehicle hire firmThe road user charge was paid on time and as requiredNo user charge or penalty is payableThe penalty exceeded the amount that applied in the circumstancesThere has been a procedural impropriety by the charging authorityCompelling reasons, Start your appeal hereClick here for further information on starting your appeal to the independent adjudicator. I heard an advert on the radio today, about the new Dartford crossing with no booths.call me naive, but I havent been in the tunnel or on the crossing for many many years and I thought it was free as I couldnt find any booths ! They are not getting a penny more from meit might even be a scam. We have paid (so as not to incur further fines) but are disputing it. The one time I travel over the crossing in May I see no signs about paying a toll and now my friend whose address I use for my UK car emails me to say I have a fine! This info does not constitute financial advice, always do your own research on top to ensure it's right for your specific circumstances and remember we focus on rates not service. SO if I were you pay the 2.50 and appeal saying you didn't fully understand the process. I have tried to pay toll charges from Saturday 18.07.2015 to be told this morning Monday 20.07.2015 If youre driving to one the South Easts major airports such as Gatwick, Luton, or Stansted theres a good chance youll need to use the Dartford Crossing and its new charging system. You will need to do this by midnight the following day. why not just send people letter to pay 2.50 if they fail to pay within14 days then charge 35. Hugh. Dartford Crossing charge By Waseem Started October 31, 2022 6 PCN from local authority By simonhill Started August 4, 2022 1 Unsigned Local Authoruty Parking Ticket By rattlywelshboy Started May 19, 2022 3 Council Parking Charge (PCN) - signs only at the entrance, no other signs on the actual street By TamerAM Started April 13, 2022 Our picks As my work was extended I didnt fly back to Manchester where my is registered and I found a full 105 plus toll had been issued in July. Hello Yes, this is true and we agree. The thing is that I have tried to find reference to the14 day grace period and can find nothing except what you have quoted a Highways Agency spokesman as saying. Council parking tickets are called Penalty Charge Notices. Thank you. eradicate the charge completely as we have paid for it via taxes and crossings hundreds of time over. finish form. The company that runs the crossing are just a bunch of con-artists. This led me to the conclusion, that I needed to pay a charge for using the crossing. Changed to Dart Charge but was assured that we could still use the Tags for any hired vehicles we were using. I completely agree. The 14-day rule should apply as long as it was the first time you havent paid in that actual car. (Last journey 2011) Well why cant we have 14days to pay . Do I expect to receive a hefty penalty or do I still have the chance to pay the normal tariff. I would like to be able to put my registration in, and confirm that there are no outstanding payments or fines. So I look forward to receiving my 2.50 back from the 22/05/2015 payment plus compensation for all the inconvenience you have put me through, plus I wont go to the press with this display of total incompetence by your dept, staff and the equipment used. The C logo is one of the tricks designed to catch out foreign and non regular users. you also confirm that you are the owner of the vehicle(s) that you wish to pay for and/or have the permission of the vehicle owner(s) to pay for crossings and receive information about the vehicle and its crossings. This is for two reasons. MoneyNerd Limited is an Introducer Appointed Representative ofSeopa Limited who is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority (Firm Reference Number 313860) and is classed as an insurance broker. No way round this. I drove back from Ipswich on 10 June there was a major accident and I queued for 2.5 hours once the traffic got going I just continued on my journey. I wish you the best of luck and let us know how you get on with this. You can also make a representation by post by filling in the form on the penalty charge notice and posting it to: Dart Charge Enforcement Failure to pay the Dart Charge before midnight the next day will result in you receiving a Penalty Charge Notice. Yes. However, the new system has issued more Dart penalty charges than before. Required fields are marked *. Dont know if it is worth paying for it online? hi! If you leave it, the hire firm might just get the fine, sit on it then charge it to your card. No just use the Payzone finder and make your payment. Anyone had the same situation and recommend next course of action? A motorist was left fuming after being slapped with a 70 toll fine when cameras mistook his two-seater convertible for a BUS. I have received Penalty charge notice and I paid them over the phone and received emails for confirmation. When will that arrive? :( Thank you. I remembered to pay at 2 minutes past midnight Aaagh! Paid Dart charge late and first notice of a fine is 105! Today I got to my car after work, My front tyre appeared luminous yellow instead of black. They must be making a fortune from forgetful people like myself or the elderly. Sadly, calling will not help achieve anything and will just use up your time. On 4th July 2015, because my failed arrangements to take me to Standstead Airport I drove my car (approx 2-30pm) I am still on holiday in Spain, I travel back late on Saturday 18th 2015 July. How much joy do you think I got from the call centre? Read our full guide to Dartford Crossing changes here. Hi If the T&Cs dont make this clear, have a word with your local Trading Standards office. As this is my first offence I think I am fine and wont get a PCN (as I did pay within the 14 days grace period.) You are not alone and as a whole batch of fines are going out at the moment, you wont be alone. Why you do not put some staff or machine to collect money for people like me (even if it is more expensive than paying by internet or phone). Click here to pay online, set up a payment plan or manage your account using our Customer Portal. I called them and appealed but appeal was rejected and they said my payment will be held it on account of future crossings. On the appeal page them start appeal link is very small and hidden at the bottom of the page hmm!https://www.aph.com/community/holidays/dartford-crossing-new-charging-system-explained/#appeal. Surprisingly..DC cannot make a change and neither the hire company.so I am really wondering whether the PCN gets to correct address. I am so angry at myself, I want to pay it online, but it will make no difference now. Pause Prepares the Mind of the Auditor to Receive Your Message Herbert Spencer said that all the universe is in motion. Shit system just like everything else dreamt up by money grabbers in government. Charge Certificates and Orders for Recovery Charge Certificates and Orders for Recovery If a Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) remains unpaid or is ignored, the authority that issued it has the right to increase the charge and register the outstanding amount as The last time I crossed, I noticed the big C on the road, which I had seen in London. It really is a poor situation, but you will have to go through the whole process just to prove you didnt do anything wrong. Remembered 10 days later so went on website and made a one off payment of 5. 10. Like this, you get to confirm whether a payment was made or not. Hi, Barring in mind I had the money ready to pay on the day of the journey . Its a money-making scheme. Oh Yippee. How can I check please ? This is the second time Ive gone through it, but I paid on my first journey many months ago . Christmas night Ive crossed dartford and forgot to pay the charge. Will I get charged? We thought great thats okay as we have already paid a few days ago. 5. I doubt the Payzone shops would take payment (but I could be wrong). The C is confusing as it can be associated with conjestion charge. We rent so he mayve lived here in the past but hant for the last two years what do I do!? But far more should have been done to address the change in the system. I have just realised today that I forgot to pay for the crossing of 5 yesterday. Even the call handlers must have dealt with very angry people that they too have lost their ability to be nice on the phone. Certainly worth a go. This is the first and only time the vehicle has crossed. Ease of travel should be a right. What hope do we have. I picked up a rental car at Leeds who did not tell me about anything ,when a warning notice came through with a penalty charge notice from dart charge, the rental company sent me on two administration letters that I was charged for at 35 each. UK has often been known for its lack of customer service for the government to promote it through such a scheme is unbelievable. Then they ask for 37.50. My daughter has my car, drove down south to visit a friend on 3rd July, and on 5th July crossed the Dart, only for me to get a PCN issued 23/10 almost 4 months later. Simply use the store locator below to find the outlet thats closest to you. I have just realised I forgot to pay on the 12.11.2015 :( So, all of those people who worked in the booths are no longer needed, but the price has gone up by 150%! If you do not cooperate they then call out the police who assist them to rob you. I also paid the standard charge but now I dont know if the First Offence grace period includes a round trip made on the same day or just 1 crossing. Enter the registration of your vehicle online, then you are given the option to pay for the number of crossings you have done. I paid the 5 anyway and when the PCN arrives will try to appeal it citing that I paid, albeit just after the deadline. I managed to speak to someone on the phone this morning and surprise! Im told, nicely , that if its my 1st offence ,often they only ask for the 2.50. Signing up will also extend the time you have to pay from midnight the following day to seven days after using the crossing. I have the same issue. Quote your charge notice number and explain why you believe the penalty is wrong. Otherwise there should be a lane for optional on-the-spot payment, with clear signage, including the amount of the fee! It is a huge amount that youre being asked to pay for a system that is flawed. You would think so but I expect the millions in fines looks good on the balance sheet. If you are currently exempt from paying the charge, that will still be the case. Hope that helps. How does not received a dart charge penalty. APH Community > Beat late payment of the Dartford Crossing charge. saw the sign for this ON OUR WAY SOUTH 2 DAYS LATER, thus realised you had to pay something but not how much or method. I made my payment on the morning of 9/9/15 as soon as I realised but I am worried as I havent had a PCN. Julie Dart who was murderd by Michael Sams. Whenever we had a temporary hired van as a fleet replacement, simply moved the Tag to the temporary vehicle. Any driver hoping to make a note is therefore forced to do so whilst driving, which must surely amount to the commission of a motoring offence (driving without due care and attention). In order for such a decision not be procedurally improper, there must be evidence that it has been taken in a discretionary way, not simply as the result of an effectively automated process. Hi Bess did you get penalty after that.I forgot to pay as well for the dart crossing.Will be good if i dont receive penalty. Yes its known on the east side of London wider publicity is not available and you need to actively search to find out how the system works. I crossed a few weeks backI havent had any penalty notice, can i try and find out if its been lost in the post or ?? Today received a PCN for 70 for a hired vehicle which had a Tag fitted. this is so bad as no time is given whatsoever, now I will have to pay for the penalty despite already spending 5. I emigrated to Switzerland and have used the crossing on average once a year for the last 35 years. Have I any chance of appealing against this unreasonable charge? Shame on you Dartford crossing and management team. YOU REALLY NEED CLEAR SIGNAGE 10 MILES OUT ON BOTH SIDES The only reason we noticed coming back was there were no tolls to pay !! So Ive done that online and now I wait and see. Thanks for the message and were glad it helped. It is set up for you to fail. My family went over dartford crossing in August on holiday no signs saying when or how to pay didnt even know you had to wasnt till we visited fiends a few days later that we found out went online and paid for both journeys payment was accepted now 4 months later been sent a PCN for 14:50,really annoyed after theyd taken my payment.Mine is a lease car so fine sent to lease company they paid the fine,then took it from my wages, now Ive got to try and claim it back. Pay now the standard crossing fee and you should be fine. (3) We dont want an account as we might only use the crossing maybe 6 times a year. Hi, MoneyNerd does not give specific debt advice and we recommend that you always discuss your personal situation with a qualified adviser that works for a company that is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Keep a copy of any payment advice you receive. 2. the nearest PayZone point to us is 4.9 miles away from me in a direction we never take so if we didnt want or have the ability to pay on line it would be nearly a ten mile round trip thats good for the ozone layer isnt it! Telephone 0330 460 5297 (local rate) to pay using our automated payment line or Contact Centre. I crossed the bridge (for the first time ever being in this region) on April 6th driving down to the south of Italy for work. 3. It seems that my payment doesnt count towards the crossing and just sits in an account..and unbeknown to me I was expected to pay AGAIN when the first letter arrived and had 14 days grace.
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