I think Kris was about to have a quick look in a man-made structure she had stumbled across just to explore. Cats are often seen as pests and scavengers which is unfortunately why many people use poison to kill local cats. Why are you not sharing their photo number, why are you stating generalities, let me help you, there is a link with all the photos https://koudekaas.blogspot.com/2019/12/the-disappearance-of-kris-kremers-and_11.html Does this take a high level of tech knowledge and a computer? You mention the research team. Also why did they go alone without a guide? I must have been living in a cave and totally preoccupied with myself when this happened because I only stumbled across this via a Youtube video ( one of many) by Juan Perea Y Monsuw on Friday. But so much of this search/investigation was poorly executed. I think it would be a mistake to assume Lisanne knew her friends password. I too noticed a nose and lips appearing. Like the taxidriver and the two local boys. or And I think that sunlight she is trying t avoid also is the reason for her facial expression. the only strange element in this photo is the distance. We have no final police report only a lot of leaked info much second hand and multiple hand. Also, Im looking forward to reading the new book as well, particularly what Pitti has to say. I am assuming that the rock painting you refer to is the round orange patch on the right. The dog found his way home. Shame! I read extensively about this case and when I saw the above pic, I got the most eerie feeling. Europe is the world . Seems strange. Im not saying that I dont think foul play was involved. It was taken on the Continental Divide on April 1st, 2014 with the recorded time: 13:20:32. Also, the other ones arent covered by man-made support structures. Likelihood the predator will strike again: 99.9% unless predator has died. That photo was wiped clean from the SD card, which is a strong clue that someone deleted it after the other photos were taken. They maintained a great deal of secrecy and privacy and never officially published any information. Regarding the existing photos its a big mess. What people are mistaking as blood from her nose and lip is again just a shadow cast from her nostril and lower lip due to the bright sun. Could be that they were trying to avoid somebody on the trail, went off the oath & got lost. If a picture is deleted from a camera, its still possible to retrieve it. Shortly after this, they became victims. In any case, this doesnt give any insight as to why there are no photos taken from that day beyond the first stream crossing. Before that, in image 507 & 508, you can see Kris in a stiff, nervous posture, because the girls saw someone they were afraid of closing in. These were standard vacation photos that two young women would take while traveling. I think shes frightened, Not only does it look like her hands are tied behind her back,but if you zoom in on just her,her expression does not look happy at all,and she is looking off to somewhere beside the camera,she isnt even looking at the camera,and there appears to be blood in her hair on both sides of her head and her hair is clearly a mess.maybe this photo was taken after their captured, possibly by whoever captured them. Shes ducking down slightly and trying to shield her eyes from the sun with her right arm. Hi Joseph, Thanks for your comment. The students from Amersfoort in the Netherlands had spent six months planning their dream trip to Panama, hoping to spend some time backpacking, volunteering and learning Spanish. Loads of speculations as to why they didnt leave messages to their families. I see orange spray paint markings on the base of the tree further in the cave to Kriss right. I wrote about the upcoming book here: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/12/09/new-book-coming-spring-2021-kris-kremers-and-lisanne-froon-case/. The theory of being lost is so plausible in a Jungle but then the photos .. the speculation can never end. Again, these are just observations. The grimace on Kris face is because she is in pain. Do we know who owned the dog named Blue (aka Azul). Thats just shadow that the camera didnt illuminate. Thank you, Sue. You can see a kind of nose and lips. Even the bones, the few that remain. Im not sure if Ive found something new here, but I havent found anyone else discussing these details online. Hi Birgitte, thank you for your comment. Someone mentioned a Jaguar? Your email address will not be published. I do not think this case fits the criteria of missing 411. All facts are not available in this case. He has a reasonable explanation for why she is having to bend down, and he found video where you can see a turn to the left where kris is. Theres a blood splatter on her leg from her tendon being cut, to keep her from running away. It only makes the image look more detailed, but the detail is artificial and can be very misleading. Even though both kept contact with their families daily through messaging and calls? This photo of Kris Kremers is identified as Photo 505. Vittorio Caruso. Anyway thanks again this is such a fascinating case I wish there would be some kind of closure for the families (although I saw a you tube video that interviewed the father of one of the girls, he said that they hired their own investigator and determined they died of an accidental fall. After taking a deep dive into all the evidence and flying out to Panama to do their own investigation, the pair concluded that the girls' deaths were an accident. Fearing that these two strangers may bring the wrath of God upon him, he releases them into the jungle. Im sure removal of the comment was justified, but in considering all possibilities Im curious if there was there any insight offered? Hi Ray, thank you for your comment. The backpack and contents were covered with fingerprints, yet they were never analyzed. I feel that unless they do or unless further forensic work has shown something more then, no matter what the experts in survival say, it is still only speculation and not proof. Image 505 is actually the last image before the night photos. The day before theguided tour, however, they decided to explore the area surrounding the activeBarVolcano towards the Continental Divide. As soon as I zoomed in, my heart sank for her. If so, it would indicate that she had been kept alive for a few weeks or more. I have no idea. After any incident the first 24 hours are critical and it seems all that time was lost. Most of the bones were never found. Can it explain Lisannes foot that was broken? The supporting pole is diagonal from upper right to lower middle indicating the path is beginning to head down. Even at this point, I still think theres a lot that can be achieved from gathering information and further evaluating the existing evidence. Let me know about your opinion heres the link https://youtu.be/4wqUCG5bxns loads of greetings Mel. Lisanne would gave definitely called her mother AT LEAST ONCE because, listen to this this is from her own diary written just two days before their disappearance: The 3 of them died shortly after being in contact with the girls. Two days pass. Her hands could be tied behind her back but, if this is the case, then much computer editing was involved because other photos that come AFTER this one in camera sequence show Kriss walking ahead of Lisanne WITHOUT her hands tied behind her back. When neither Froonnor Kremers turned up, the community decided to wait until the next day to contact authorities. It is the poor color quality of the photograph with oversaturated reds that has people thinking they are seeing skulls and carcasses. They obviously protect the predator(s). People have been there. By April 6, 2014, theparents of both women grew frantic andflew to Panama with detectives from the Netherlands. There is an international consortium working behind the scenes to slowly and methodically continue the investigation. Why would that be? So this sparked my curiosity. However, the perpetrators likely wanted the authorities to believe they were taken on the pianista trail. I cant explain the calls or photos or intact skin that was found. While I was reading over the story again, I decided to review their photos one more time. The overriding input is human. In this case, I dont believe it was incompetence alone. Police searches have found nothing and now his mother is flying out to try to find him. Im sitting here, with tears in my eyes and rolling down my cheeks.The transition from two weeks of lively holiday to stepping into the life of a real Panamanian family is just too much for me I want MOM and dad to hold me tight and tell me that everything will be alright I now feel like a small child of 2 yelling for her mother who is 2 meters away. This observation of yours is amazing, the girls could have stumbled upon something and been victims. As you mention, she is blocking the sun with her hand and keeping her head down. This photo has been edited. Sometimes that is all that is found. Its very disappointing to see the comment sections on this website to be allowed to turn into a very disrespectful and unfunny joke. For other inquiries, Contact Us. The authors told The Daily Beast: "It actually came as a surprise to us too, but our conclusion had to be that it was an accident. Out of respect for the girls families, I think that comments like this, which I argue turn this case into some sort of entertaining Netflix series, should be removed. Theres some type of red and black object at the top of the photo. One thing is for sure, I will never travel to Panama. I am thinking while I am writing so please be patient with me. The biggest danger for travelers in Central America is crime. Or perhaps its an offshoot from the trail along a natural gully that leads to a dead-end? If you can rule out getting lost or falling off the trail in that circle, all my money is on foul The girls were no longer alive after April 2nd latest. Before you even pointed out the manmade ceiling structure I noticed that. 24/7 coverage of breaking news and live events. This is speculation. Apr 4, 2022 The number of international visitor arrivals in Panama surpassed the one million in 2021, after having plummeted to less than 700 thousand as a result of COVID-19 impact on tourism. In image 505, it is around 4:30 PM on April 1st. Search parties are looking for her. I have seen her stick out her tongue and other photos of her. Cave photo: I was visiting Panama and Boquette July 2014, thats when I first heard about this case and was following it ever since. Do you think this could be at all relevant? Jump forward to Boquette now and you will see a photo of the girls in the street, and behind them is a shirtless fat white man. I have created a comparison of the original photo leaked to the public, the artificially upsampled version thereof and the (presumed) full resolution picture taken from the article linked to in my previous post (all cropped to show only Kris and further 2 magnified). There was one person that said that the dog left with them when they set out on their hike. Excellent editing work, thanks to Justin. This! Thats perplexing to me. On April 1, the 21-year-old and 22-year-old went for a walk through the scenic forests around the Baru Volcano in Boquete. In the first half of this year, tourist arrivals fell globally by more than 65 percent, with a near halt since Aprilcompared with 8 percent during the global financial crisis and 17 percent amid the SARS epidemic of 2003, according to ongoing IMF research on tourism in a post-pandemic world. Terrible for the parents. Like she was scouting and turned back to talk to Lisanne, shielding her eyes from the sun to see her. Hands tied behind her back, face looks a bit puffy too, as if been in an altercation of sorts. Looking carefully at her forehead you can see theres only the shade from a pole but her face is shaded. She would probably have gone into what looks like a cave or hut behind her, which may have been a booby trap leading to a long drop either through the floor or at the back of the cave. I agree w rope around waste thst wasnt there before, hair is completely down Aldo, shes in distree. The 2020 cristian massacre was committed by a couple of men who were definitively altered in their state and heard voices etc. And the police know who it is, but will not say anything. I also see something above the brown circle, like a ring of colored balls or ???? With all the misinformation thrown out there and poor follow up work (likely to protect tourism), any ones guess is possible. The pair had been hiking around the jungle for two weeks as part of a backpacking trip - and they were planning to stay for another four weeks with their host family to volunteer at a local school. Froon had a Canon Powershot SX270 HS which contained numerous photos, many of which were of the period of time leading up to the day of the girls disappearance. Has anyone gone back to the spot where the photo was taken? The pictures taken were used to place Kris in pictures on the Mirador with Lisanne. I know if I was hiking and wandering in the jungle (and presumably possibly lost although not quite realizing this at this point), I would be curious about a manmade structure like this. The main/central support bar (branch?) The rock in the riverbed is very distinctive was this location ever found and explored? The back of the shirt was soiled (you interpret). Did they lose it right at the start of the hike, but didnt bother to go and look for it? For what reason? Why did they not do that? The camera had a video function this could have been used including of course sound. I think in the original photo she is putting on her backpack, stretching her arm and back, and the backpack has been airbrushed out because of course she didnt take that with her. The photos give the appearance that they are PROMPTED to go ahead by someone. Its at the very top of the post. Im curious to know if they had a camera why wouldnt they make a final message for family telling us and them what happened? NOT A SINGLE ONE? However, her surroundings were my intended focus regarding this photo theres a lot of things in this photo that havent been discussed elsewhere and could provide clues as to what happened to them. I am Photoshop expert, and I promise you that its virtually impossible to edit images in any way without it being noticeable at the pixel level. But there are a few holesin this particular theory. It would be interesting to know exactly where this photo was taken Is it along the main trail north of the Mirador en route to the stream crossing? They got lost and succumbed to the wild. It belongs to the long green leaves we are seeing up there. Incredible work and interest- level regarding the fate of these human spirits. If the dog went with them, its likely that the girls would have taken a photo of the dog, even if the dog was in a photo accidentally. However, on closer inspection you can see that the left hand side of the post is really a vine or root hanging straight down and the white at the top is a patch of light in the background, as if there was a small narrow window in the bank Through which the sun is shining and it also looks as though someone is looking through it at Kris. We have no police report to read which its self may also contain errors. How long does an AI correction take for you to do? She clearly thinks shes found something amazing. Hi Justin, Well done the image is really sharp now. So without doubt, someone tampered with the photos to some degree. Tony and Debra Velleman are pictured in an undated image. The phones remained active for nearly 10days after the pair went missing. There is definitely a face on that the post/tree to the right of Kris. WHY? She looks as if her hands are above her head in a way someone would have them if a police officer were to tell them to put their hands above their head. I think that Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon underestimated their surroundings and were ill prepared for this adventure. If there are documented river paths, this could be a way to find that exact same location. In May, a 61-year-old American man went missing and was presumed to have gone overboard while on a cruise through the South Pacific, according to a report from the Australian Associated Press. Her stance is weird there is nothing of note she could be looking at and it is difficult to tell what her right arm is doing. She cant be shielding her eyes from the sun, as no shadow is falling over her eyes. https://u.cubeupload.com/beavermatic/KrisKremersFullPhoto.jpg, Her hands are not tied behind her back! Stories which hes found in archives going back as early as 1500s until modern day all Facts and all true. I wonder if the two red objects are flowers? Kris Kremers, 21, and Lisanne Froon, 22, were hiking near the town of. because why else would they have continued access to their phones for the next week? A well-worn path. Once there, the families and detectives began a massive search. Its so cold. To inquire about a licence to reproduce material, visit our Syndication site. Someone with darkish skin. For the next three days she keeps moving, weakened by exposure to the elements and at the edge of starvation. I bounce around a little and try to get to the crux of the issue. And theyre gaining steam in recent years. There are more answers out there that are still possible to gather. Rainfall probably washed the bag into the water. The Panamanian government had requested that the U.S. deploy assets including Navy salvage divers and sonar to aid in the search effort and locate the wreckage in the days after the crash, but the request was denied due to a lack of assets and jurisdiction, according to a statement from the Velleman and Borries families. Most travelers that have big experiences want to remember the small details of trips, because the trip represents an important memory in their life. The left-side of her head is not hair or her hand, but just the foliage in the background. However, if Continuous mode was in use then even if 509 was deleted, the next image will be 510. To Janice To me it looks as if shes holding up one hand cupping her ear as if to hear something being shouted to her. Then consider Kris and Lisannes parents when they trekked with a group along the trail, across two streams, until they reached a field with the disintegrating fence posts and the tall lone tree some hundred meters away. Her face also appears to be heavily damaged, bruised and bleeding and her hair appears to have been pulled out and or cut as its sticking out in ways that dont seem normal for her ponytail.. They decided to enter the jungle, but they failed to mark their entry point into the jungle with a stack of rocks or some such marking. Also I have read that during the time they tried to contact emergency services one phone connected albeit briefly. In other pictures of her crossing water she is clearly dirty with her hair up. Sure, anyone can do these things with a computer and specialized knowledge but with this level of competence? Either way, itll be interesting to see. Why is no one talking about what appears to be a rock painting or a carving 3-4 feet in front of her? Even the cheap pair of sunglasses are in perfect condition. And more on this most people in Latin America that permit their dog to walk freely do not keep track of where their dog goes. That and the deleted photo make me for first time in my studies of this incident start to suspect foul play, but well never know. However being one of the last photos taken this location would be incredibly important to have investigated back in 2014 (or even still). Almost like some picture had been there and this posted over or just strange, almost satanic looking things. Draw a line from that point in all directions as far as they could travel in the time to the emergency call, and there must be part of the answer to the mystery inside that circle.
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